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Help with Western Blot! [View Printable]
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jxr
Group: Member Posts: 3 Joined: Jul 28, 2008
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Please help, I am new to western blot analysis.
I did a blot using beta-actin antibody and biotinylated protein ladder. I also used an antibody that worked for me before on the other side of the membrane (I cut it in half).
The beta-actin antibody gave no signal, and the ladder was very faint. I did use anti-biotin in my 2nd antibody. I know that my transfer and technique was good because of the other antibody I used, the ladder and protein of interest were correct.
Am I blocking too much? Could degradation of an antibody block signal of the protein ladder?
Thank you.
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qinglongyanyuedao
Group: Member Posts: 83 Joined: Oct 08, 2006
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try 1. increase your protein loading 2. increase your 1st antibody concentration
and, you can't over-block the membrane
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| Posted Jul 30, 2008, 10:26 AM |
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R Bishop
Group: Admin Posts: 304 Joined: Jan 17, 2006
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How long and at what temperatures did you leave your primary and secondary antibodies on the blot?
Rb
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......................... "To those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight, we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope."
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| Posted Jul 30, 2008, 11:04 AM |
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jxr
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| R Bishop said: | How long and at what temperatures did you leave your primary and secondary antibodies on the blot?
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I left my primary on overnight at 4 degrees C, secondary for 1 hour at room temperature. A few other things: 1. I blocked in 5% milk, primary in 5% BSA, secondary in 5% milk. Could that affect it? I followed the Cell Signaling protocol. 2. The antibody was given to me. It might be 3 years old. Could poor storage/handling be a factor? Thank you for your help!
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kriodos
Group: Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 21, 2008
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did you check your transfer with ponceau staining or something similar? 3 years is a little bit for an antibody but it was well stored is not a problen and can be solvented by increasing the amount like R Bishop saids.
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| Posted Jul 31, 2008, 8:38 AM |
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R Bishop
Group: Admin Posts: 304 Joined: Jan 17, 2006
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1. I doubt the milk would affect things in your case though it can cause problems with phosphorylation antibodies.
2. I would say yes. TRUST NO ONE! Increase the concentration to 1:500 or 1:250. and let us know what you get
Rb
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......................... "To those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight, we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope."
-- Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008
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| Posted Jul 31, 2008, 16:40 PM |
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jxr
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Thank you! I will try your suggestions and get back to you next week.
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Edward Dougherty
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I am of the mindset of kridos. You may be getting ahead of yourself thinking in terms of antibody problems. Have you first confirmed that you are getting proper transfer? It is especially concerning that you are having problems with your protein ladder, which should be independent of any blocking/staining procedure. Following transfer, check your membrane by staining with Ponceau-S (1% ponceau-S in 10% glacial acetic acid I believe), also you can stain your gel with coomassie. Following the staining, check the gel for the absence of protein (don't be concerned with the appearance of some high molecular weight proteins or uppermost standards) and check your membrane for a nice even transfer. If these are fine, THEN begin to worry about your Western blotting conditions.
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Pinal Pandya
Group: Member Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 24, 2006
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what buffer do u use to make the blocking buffer? Does it have any azide in it? If so, then azide with inhibit your secondary antibody and you will see no bands at all. This has happened to me before. Instead you can incubate socondary antibody with TBST for 1 hr at room temperature on a rocker. No milk is requiered. That seemed to work for me.
Try it. I know it can be very frustrating (i was in a similar situation).
Good luck Pinal
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