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I would like to see a forum that focuses on cancer research.

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 Posted Mar 16, 2005, 1:51 AM Last edited Oct 14, 2008, 8:08 AM by guy
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Thats a good suggestion - I'll second it! though there are some cancer/oncology topics, it only underscores the massively multidisciplinary nature of the field now.

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I'm from Romania and i have a well grounding in physics. I have writing an manuscript which is still writing in Romanian language. The main issue of this manuscript is about a real and formally accepted pattern for living systems. So, the main problem that I try to clear up is the fact that the all dynamic, chemical and physical phenomenons on living forms are individually reproducible by experiments or we could find them in nature. But, theirs individually developing (out of organisms) are ruled by spacial and temporal statistics laws. Or IN the organisms such phenomenons are coordinated and the statistics laws are not functioning (the result of this coordination is precisely geometrical determined in space-the stable form of the result of a holding of dynamic phenomenons-the organism). And this precise determination is not a result of a material (physical, chemical) actions (which are governed by statistic laws). So, what is the cause of this determination?
That's the question? And the answer isn't "DNA" which is a scalar information (not geometrical oriented, which means "vector"). So he can't generate a strictly determineted geometrical form of the result of an dynamic process.
In the same time the answer is not an religious one! It's a strictly scientific answer! I have this answer!
But we talk here about physics, statistics, theory of information etc.
The method I found for healing the cancer is based on this answer and is good (is verified illegally on peoples in Romania for many years)!
I have published in my country a few materials about this new theory which offer an explanation for genesis of cancer. The main idea of these explanation is that:
The tumor is an independent organism ( from his host). She is intelligent, can take decisions and can adapting at specific external stimulus (treatments or actions of immunologic system). This coordinated tip of behavior of malign cells is facilitated by well known connection of the tumor with the nerves of nervous vegetative system ( which offer a rich informational support). So, the principle of a method (for cureing the cancer) is that: the tumor mast be isolated by the influence of activity of the nerves (cutting the nerve or synapses). Main and Prehn have performed such experiments in 1947 ( they pull out the tumor and pull in the same tumor to the same animal) with promising results. But they follow a different theoretical idea (the existence of a specific tumor antigens ). The tumor mast remaining there by reintroducing here in the same site with out any connections with the nerves. But the nerves mostly fallow the sanguine vessels. That explain the success of Avastin (Folkman): no vessels, no nerves ! But this results could be improved: the tumor has no food but she mast haven't no coordination. Because the cancer is an "soft", an program for a coordinated activity of malign cells. That's why the individual sarcoma cell are identified and destroyed by the immunological system.
Gabriel Pascu, for contacting me please use personal Message system.

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Posted Oct 14, 2008, 1:33 AM Last edited Oct 14, 2008, 8:09 AM by guy
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Dear Gabriel,
Thank you very much for your interesting information,
We would be more then interested to read your paper.
If you would have time to translate it and put it as an attachment we would be thankful for the effort.
I understand and agree with the majority of what you wrote until the end of it.
My main problem with your statements is that you are saying that the Tumor is an independent entity but all of us know couple of things that are not supporting that argument. First as you said the tumor needs nutrients so it is dependent upon the host, as you know Folkman use shark cartilage to cure cancer, as shark do not have any cancer as the majority of their body is made of Cartilage and this tissue dose not have any blood vessels.By that I am saying that Tumors are in need of constant nutrient supply via blood. Second thing is that Metastasis is possible due to the vast network of blood vessels. Many times you take out the primary tumor and then couple of month after words the secondary could be found elsewhere in the body.
So from what I understand the Tumor / Body connection is what allowing the tumor to grow proliferate and penetrate other parts of the body.
What would be you explanation to the above arguments?
Hope that we would be able to continue this discussion with more of our members that are more knowledgeable in cancer research then me.
Guy

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Posted Oct 14, 2008, 8:22 AM
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