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Hi,
I am doing PCR with primers I designed using Primer 3 program. The first set gave me a great band in the right size. I have now moved to a second set and used a first set as a sort of positive control. Thus far, I have had the first set work with a very faint band and no bands in the second set and a case where neither worked. I have done multiple RNA isolations and RT-PCR to rule out the quality of my cDNA. I have been using a control for cDNA, beta actin, and that has been working perfectly with my failed primer attemps. Any suggestion

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Did you change the annealing temperature for the second primer?

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Posted Jun 25, 2008, 1:11 AM
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No, both sets of primers have a Tm of 60 or within 2 degrees of 60. Could my primers have gone bad? I only froze and unthawed them about 5x. Nothing is contaminated with buffer, dNTP, Taq, water, MgCl, because I used the same batch for my control b-actin and that worked perfectly

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Although it is always best to minimise freezing and thawing by doing aliquots of your primers, I find it hard to believe that primer degradation actually occurred for just freezing and thawing 5x.

However did u use TE or water to dilute the primers? and did you mix the primers well after u diluted?

It could have been the case that you did not mix the primer well, preventing the solution from becoming homogenous.

Thats all i can say at this moment.

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Posted Jun 26, 2008, 21:49 PM
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I thought it was strange that they would degrade so fast. I diluted them with water. As for mixing, I spin them down briefly and pipett up and down when making the PCR mix. Today I found out that the freezer I had been storing the primers aliquots and 100uM master solutions in a freezer that hotter than -20. When I asked they said they think it is around -2. I don't know if this could have led to a problem. I will try mixing more before I run any more PCRs. the control primers worked and I made those aliquots the same way I made the aliqouts for my designed primers. Any ideas help

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Posted Jun 26, 2008, 22:27 PM
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Was the TAQ stored in -2 as well? If so that might be the problem

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Posted Jul 14, 2008, 0:37 AM
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