Purification of a 1Kd protein...any ideas ??? [View Printable]
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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Hi everyone ..... I am trying to purify and isolate a protein of about 1.3Kd size....(well almost a peptide at that ).....i need to get enough pure to be able to sequence it ......Any ideas how to go about doin this ???.....Are there any gels or something I can run to catch it on ???....Am trying a 20% SDS Gel but so far no luck .....
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| Posted Jun 22, 2007, 18:01 PM |
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swannnyy
Group: Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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What techniques have you tried so far?
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| Posted Jun 25, 2007, 17:04 PM |
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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hey everyone thanks for your help so far . the links are helpful . so far i have put it through a Seph Q folowed by a CM Seph Column and followed by a Phenyl Seph Column ......but havent gotten it completely pure yet .
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| Posted Jun 25, 2007, 16:19 PM |
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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Hi trook ... so i am new to this and slightly confused , hopefully you can bear with my questions... wouldnt the cassette you suggested retain everything bigger than 2000 (and 63% of a 1350 size protein ..which is similar to the size of mine ) ......how would this help me purify then ?
or did you mean that i should try a reverse dialysis and put high conc outside cassette and try and catch my protein inside it ???...
thanks .
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| Posted Jun 25, 2007, 17:36 PM |
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swannnyy
Group: Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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| wiseass_in said: | hey everyone thanks for your help so far . the links are helpful . so far i have put it through a Seph Q folowed by a CM Seph Column and followed by a Phenyl Seph Column ......but havent gotten it completely pure yet . |
For something as small as 1.3 kDa, and especially if it's going to go to sequencing, I'd suggest reverse phase. An analytical C18 column should resolve any other contaminants away. As for using gels, I presume you are doing tricine SDS-PAGE.
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| Posted Jun 26, 2007, 17:26 PM |
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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hey ...thanks .....yes that is wht i am trying to do now .....isolate it on a C-18 column....keeping my fingers crossed ......
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| Posted Jun 26, 2007, 16:31 PM |
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mary-annRSA
Group: Member Posts: 17 Joined: Sep 28, 2007
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This might sound too simple - but I've purified small (not as small as 1kd) DNA & proteins this way before. Run your protein sample on the appropriate concentration PA gel. Cut out the section of the gel showing the protein. Place gel piece in a dialysis bag with tank buffer. Place dialysis bag in electrophoresis tank with tank buffer and run current until the protein runs off the gel. You now have your protein in the dialysis bag with tank buffer. To concentrate the protein - place the bag in PEG for a while. This is one way of doing it. Its simple and I hope it helps.
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| Posted Oct 11, 2007, 14:33 PM |
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mary-annRSA
Group: Member Posts: 17 Joined: Sep 28, 2007
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This might sound too simple - but I've purified small (not as small as 1kd) DNA & proteins this way before. Run your protein sample on the appropriate concentration PA gel. Cut out the section of the gel showing the protein. Place gel piece in a dialysis bag with tank buffer. Place dialysis bag in electrophoresis tank with tank buffer and run current until the protein runs off the gel. You now have your protein in the dialysis bag with tank buffer. Remove the piece of gel.To concentrate the protein - place the bag in PEG for a while. This is one way of doing it. Its simple and I hope it helps.
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......................... Mary-Ann Chetty maryannchetty@gmail.com
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| Posted Oct 11, 2007, 14:38 PM |
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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thanks frog egg .. will try this out ... by the way... i think i managed to catch it on a 18% SDS gel ....using silver stain....still have to chk with a couple of assays though .....
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| Posted Oct 11, 2007, 15:30 PM |
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a_wandering_1
Group: Member Posts: 15 Joined: Jun 05, 2007
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Do you have sequence information for your protein? If it's that small, you could have the peptide synthesized, then couple it to KLH and make antibodies. Life is always simpler once you have an antibody to work with!
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| Posted Nov 08, 2007, 4:58 AM |
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parvoman
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Wouldn't it be possible to just centrifuge it through one of the smallest MWCO Millipore filters? I used to do this for my 6Kd protein since the other proteins were all larger.
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| Posted Nov 08, 2007, 19:00 PM |
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qinglongyanyuedao
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| wiseass_in said: | thanks frog egg .. will try this out ... by the way... i think i managed to catch it on a 18% SDS gel ....using silver stain....still have to chk with a couple of assays though ..... |
by my experience, 18% SDS gel won't be good to separate small proteins, will suggest Tricine SDS-PAGE (18 or 20%)
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| Posted Nov 08, 2007, 18:24 PM |
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wiseass_in
Group: Member Posts: 6 Joined: Jun 22, 2007
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Hi all... thanks for your suggestions !.. i did use millipore filters ..used a 3,000 NMWL filter and that helps ....now am going to try and transfer it to a PVDF memebrane and try and sequence it ...... also i was you have mentioned KLH ?...i was wondering what that is ?.. thanks
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| Posted Nov 08, 2007, 22:23 PM |
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a_wandering_1
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KLH stands for Keyhole Limpet Hemocyanin. It's a large, immunogenic protein that carries oxygen in molluscs. It's used as a carrier protein to couple peptides/small proteins to so that they will elicit a strong immune response and generate antibodies when injected into a rabbit, goat, mouse, etc.
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| Posted Nov 16, 2007, 20:44 PM |
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