Scientist Solutions: Life Science Discussions
 Refer a Friend    Link To Us    Bookmark Us       

      
 » Home » Protein Chemistry » Protein Isolation/Purification » Purification of a 1Kd protein...any ideas ???

Other Topics
11/28/2008 10:32 AM
SDS removal through dyali ...
11/11/2008 02:47 PM
Immunoprecipitation Optim ...
11/11/2008 09:17 AM
Increasing IP Yield
9/30/2008 06:52 AM
atp sepharose affinity ch ...
9/29/2008 06:38 AM
Problematic Basal Express ...
9/20/2008 01:00 PM
Can I overdry proteins?
9/18/2008 10:14 AM
no protein after dialysis
9/4/2008 09:25 AM
Trouble seperating tagles ...
8/27/2008 11:22 AM
Problems with my co-IPs, ...
8/9/2008 10:37 AM
How do you microdialyze a ...
8/6/2008 09:43 AM
Identifying and purifying ...
7/21/2008 06:12 AM
His-Tag purification - co ...
7/21/2008 06:12 AM
His-Tag purification - co ...
7/21/2008 06:55 AM
protein degradation after ...
7/21/2008 05:59 AM
removal of lipids from br ...
7/8/2008 07:31 PM
molar ratio of NTA and Hi ...
7/2/2008 12:25 AM
Protease required!!!!
5/9/2008 11:42 AM
Protein Inhibitors (fast ...
4/26/2008 11:54 AM
Subcellular fractionation
1/28/2008 09:49 PM
best leader peptide for p ...
1/19/2008 02:27 PM
A problem in Large scale ...
12/20/2007 06:14 PM
removing bound SDS from p ...
11/5/2007 03:00 PM
System for overexpression ...
10/25/2007 04:09 PM
protein quantification at ...
10/25/2007 03:27 PM
Protein purification from ...
10/10/2007 10:43 AM
Coimmunoprecipitation
10/9/2007 09:34 AM
best leader peptide for p ...
9/27/2007 03:31 PM
PelB leader sequence misc ...
9/17/2007 04:30 AM
OPN/aOPN separation
9/13/2007 09:26 PM
protein expression reduct ...
Subscribet to topic
Add Reply  Add New Topic  Add New Poll
bottom of page RSS Feed 

Topic Feed

 

Purification of a 1Kd protein...any ideas ???

 [View Printable]
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

Hi everyone .....
I am trying to purify and isolate a protein of about 1.3Kd size....(well almost a peptide at that ).....i need to get enough pure to be able to sequence it ......Any ideas how to go about doin this ???.....Are there any gels or something I can run to catch it on ???....Am trying a 20% SDS Gel but so far no luck .....

.........................

Posted Jun 22, 2007, 18:01 PM
trook

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 337
Joined: Jan 17, 2005







 Send a personal messsage to trook Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

You may want to try the Slide-A-Lyzer 2K MWCO Dialysis Cassettes from Pierce. Or you can take a look at this Pierce Selection Guide

Otherwise here are some pretty good overviews of some other protein purification methods:
Protein Purification

Protein Purification - Principals & Practices

Protein Purification Handbook from amersham pharmacia biotech


If you have funding available this text may be of some help -
Guide to Protein Purification

.........................

Posted Jun 24, 2007, 17:07 PM
swannnyy

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Jun 26, 2006







 Send a personal messsage to swannnyy Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

What techniques have you tried so far?

.........................
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get binary jokes, and those who don't." Anon.

Posted Jun 25, 2007, 17:04 PM
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

hey everyone thanks for your help so far . the links are helpful .
so far i have put it through a Seph Q folowed by a CM Seph Column and followed by a Phenyl Seph Column ......but havent gotten it completely pure yet .

.........................

Posted Jun 25, 2007, 16:19 PM
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

Hi trook ...
so i am new to this and slightly confused , hopefully you can bear with my questions...
wouldnt the cassette you suggested retain everything bigger than 2000 (and 63% of a 1350 size protein ..which is similar to the size of mine ) ......how would this help me purify then ?

or did you mean that i should try a reverse dialysis and put high conc outside cassette and try and catch my protein inside it ???...

thanks .

.........................

Posted Jun 25, 2007, 17:36 PM
swannnyy

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Jun 26, 2006







 Send a personal messsage to swannnyy Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

wiseass_in said:
hey everyone thanks for your help so far . the links are helpful .
so far i have put it through a Seph Q folowed by a CM Seph Column and followed by a Phenyl Seph Column ......but havent gotten it completely pure yet .

For something as small as 1.3 kDa, and especially if it's going to go to sequencing, I'd suggest reverse phase. An analytical C18 column should resolve any other contaminants away.
As for using gels, I presume you are doing tricine SDS-PAGE.

.........................
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get binary jokes, and those who don't." Anon.

Posted Jun 26, 2007, 17:26 PM
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

hey ...thanks .....yes that is wht i am trying to do now .....isolate it on a C-18 column....keeping my fingers crossed ......

.........................

Posted Jun 26, 2007, 16:31 PM
mary-annRSA

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 17
Joined: Sep 28, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to mary-annRSA Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

This might sound too simple - but I've purified small (not as small as 1kd) DNA & proteins this way before. Run your protein sample on the appropriate concentration PA gel. Cut out the section of the gel showing the protein. Place gel piece in a dialysis bag with tank buffer. Place dialysis bag in electrophoresis tank with tank buffer and run current until the protein runs off the gel. You now have your protein in the dialysis bag with tank buffer. To concentrate the protein - place the bag in PEG for a while. This is one way of doing it.
Its simple and I hope it helps.

.........................
Mary-Ann Chetty
maryannchetty@gmail.com

Posted Oct 11, 2007, 14:33 PM
mary-annRSA

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 17
Joined: Sep 28, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to mary-annRSA Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

This might sound too simple - but I've purified small (not as small as 1kd) DNA & proteins this way before. Run your protein sample on the appropriate concentration PA gel. Cut out the section of the gel showing the protein. Place gel piece in a dialysis bag with tank buffer. Place dialysis bag in electrophoresis tank with tank buffer and run current until the protein runs off the gel. You now have your protein in the dialysis bag with tank buffer. Remove the piece of gel.To concentrate the protein - place the bag in PEG for a while. This is one way of doing it.
Its simple and I hope it helps.

.........................
Mary-Ann Chetty
maryannchetty@gmail.com

Posted Oct 11, 2007, 14:38 PM
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

thanks frog egg .. will try this out ...
by the way... i think i managed to catch it on a 18% SDS gel ....using silver stain....still have to chk with a couple of assays though .....

.........................

Posted Oct 11, 2007, 15:30 PM
a_wandering_1

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 15
Joined: Jun 05, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to a_wandering_1 Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

Do you have sequence information for your protein? If it's that small, you could have the peptide synthesized, then couple it to KLH and make antibodies. Life is always simpler once you have an antibody to work with!

.........................

Posted Nov 08, 2007, 4:58 AM
parvoman

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 272
Joined: Jul 28, 2005







 Send a personal messsage to parvoman Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page



Wouldn't it be possible to just centrifuge it through one of the smallest MWCO Millipore filters? I used to do this for my 6Kd protein since the other proteins were all larger.

.........................

Posted Nov 08, 2007, 19:00 PM
qinglongyanyuedao

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 85
Joined: Oct 08, 2006







 Send a personal messsage to qinglongyanyuedao Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

wiseass_in said:
thanks frog egg .. will try this out ...
by the way... i think i managed to catch it on a 18% SDS gel ....using silver stain....still have to chk with a couple of assays though .....


by my experience, 18% SDS gel won't be good to separate small proteins, will suggest Tricine SDS-PAGE (18 or 20%)

.........................
UGGGCUAAUGGU*CAAAUUGCCAACGGC

Posted Nov 08, 2007, 18:24 PM
wiseass_in

Frog Egg

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Jun 22, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to wiseass_in Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

Hi all...
thanks for your suggestions !..
i did use millipore filters ..used a 3,000 NMWL filter and that helps ....now am going to try and transfer it to a PVDF memebrane and try and sequence it ......
also i was you have mentioned KLH ?...i was wondering what that is ?..
thanks

.........................

Posted Nov 08, 2007, 22:23 PM
a_wandering_1

Frog Laureate

See
Similar
Scientists





Group: Member
Posts: 15
Joined: Jun 05, 2007







 Send a personal messsage to a_wandering_1 Reply with a quote from this post Go to the top of the page

KLH stands for Keyhole Limpet Hemocyanin. It's a large, immunogenic protein that carries oxygen in molluscs. It's used as a carrier protein to couple peptides/small proteins to so that they will elicit a strong immune response and generate antibodies when injected into a rabbit, goat, mouse, etc.

.........................

Posted Nov 16, 2007, 20:44 PM
top of page Add Reply  Add New Topic  Add New Poll

Forum Jump