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gsovak
Group: Member Posts: 544 Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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Dear All, Do scientists prefer to work with a PC or a Mac? Guy
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Posted Feb 04, 2007, 0:51 AM |
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Tony Rook
Group: Member Posts: 582 Joined: Nov 03, 2005
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I currently and grudgingly use Windows XP both at work and home!
I can't get over all the positive reviews the major PC mags are giving to the Mac OS and what a let down Vista has become. It seems to me that Apple has quietly taken over the superiority of operating systems and its just a matter of time before the rest of the world realizes that they are using the inferior product. Vista is simply implementing features that Apple has offered for several years without having to worry about the virus and spyware infiltration that MS OS allows.
The next system that I purchase will most definitely be running a Mac OS.
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 7:45 AM |
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frasermoss
Group: Admin Posts: 704 Joined: Feb 22, 2005
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Like Tony I begrudgingly use a PC mainly because the pClamp electrophysioogy software is so intimately tied to the PC operating systems.
I have not however looked into whether you can now run pClamp 10 in MAC or in a Windows Parrallels system on a MAC
Anyone know?
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......................... "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work". Edison
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 4:59 AM |
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montgomj
Group: Member Posts: 97 Joined: Feb 22, 2005
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I use a Mac and love it. I switched from a PC when I joined my current lab that was very Mac dominated and I figured it would be easier for sharing files. I am so glad that I made the switch. I have had far fewer problems, no crashing, no viruses...the commercials are right.
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 5:01 AM |
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Tracy
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My lab is also MAC dominated. Until I saw the commercial about MAC, I didn't realize how compact the MAC is now. I just started using MAC after I have been using PC for more than 10 years. Still feel needing a little bit time to adjust.
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 19:00 PM |
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samm
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For all of you who are ready to tear out your hair in frustration with Windows, and its abysmal file handling and memory management (and not having successfully created a new system, Vista will have many of those issues, though I'm sure it will be much better integrated): help is at hand! I've been using a Intel IMAc since ~April last year, and a MacBook from ~Nov. They are beautifully engineered, and using either BootCamp (free; either/ or setup) or Parallels Desktop ($79; simultaneous/parallel operation setup) you can run XP, and all the Windows only analysis programs that you need. I also use iWork (YES - I actually do that sometimes!), MS Office and Photoshop on MAc OS X10.4.8, but do switch back to Windows for some of the confocal and FACS analysis tools.
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 23:06 PM |
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samm
Group: Moderators Posts: 409 Joined: Mar 03, 2005
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| frasermoss said: | Like Tony I begrudgingly use a PC mainly because the pClamp electrophysioogy software is so intimately tied to the PC operating systems.
I have not however looked into whether you can now run pClamp 10 in MAC or in a Windows Parrallels system on a MAC
Anyone know? |
All my programs seem to run natively - I've assigned 1 Gb of RAM (out of 2 Gb) to Parallels/Windows, and that is usually quite enough. I run Windows-only density mapping, confocal 3D generator and flow cytometry software on my iMAc without any trouble or lag - and the overall user experience is undoubtedly better than a PC with similar specs. As far as I can make out, Parallels DOES NOT run as an emulator (e.g. the terrible VirtualPC), but actually RUNS the OS - except it does so with adaptable software restricted hardware limits. If you aren't as lazy as me, and don't have any problems shutting down all your MAc windows/workflows/browsers etc when you want to use your program, BootCAmp is a very viable option - it devotes >90% of system resources to Windows.
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| Posted Feb 04, 2007, 23:13 PM |
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gsovak
Group: Member Posts: 544 Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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I just started to work with a PC that have got the Vista. As many says, nothing is new under the sun. The vista is trying to do what apple manged to do long time ago. If you look closely you can also see the resamblance of the screen saver pattern. Same as in the Mac OS X.
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| Posted Feb 06, 2007, 14:21 PM |
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frasermoss
Group: Admin Posts: 704 Joined: Feb 22, 2005
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An additional point/thought.
I use a PC. My wife uses a Mac. We are both scientists.
I swear at my computer on average 10 times a day.
My wife probably only swears at hers 10 time a year.
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......................... "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work". Edison
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| Posted Feb 07, 2007, 22:55 PM |
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montgomj
Group: Member Posts: 97 Joined: Feb 22, 2005
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Any LINUX users out there that want to add their 10 cents?
I'm a MAC user and love it, but have noticed that the PC users I know that run LINUX are happier than the Windows folks. Then again they tend to be people that know a lot more about how their computers actually work.
Thoughts?
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| Posted Feb 07, 2007, 23:01 PM |
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Jamie_Cruikshank
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We use all PC software for our lab stations that are connected to the DNA sequencer, all of our automated lab equipment (liquid handlers and plate prep), as well as for our gel stations.
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| Posted Feb 08, 2007, 0:24 AM |
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Carson O Genic
Group: Member Posts: 148 Joined: Jun 22, 2005
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I'm all Mac, except for the windows machines I have to use attached to equipment. BD's switch to PCs on their flow cytometers has me swearing at least once a week.
People should be allowed to use what machine lets them work the best.
My main gripes with PCs and even some Macs in the lab is the poor quality software that was designed without taste or common sense. All lab software would benefit from the Apple treatment for usability.
I also hate the big boxes one older machines, they waste too much bench space. Laptops or Mac minis only please!
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| Posted Feb 08, 2007, 16:29 PM |
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gsovak
Group: Member Posts: 544 Joined: Jan 25, 2005
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First let me thank all of those who voted. I use both Mac and PC. At home I got my PC and at work got a Mac. I think that both preform quite the same. I know that Mac dont have any (till now) virus issues and thats one of it great advantages. Overall I like working with both.
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| Posted Feb 12, 2007, 17:11 PM |
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guy
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What I like in the Mac, That you dont have problems with viruses, and the computer never crashes ( work for 5 years and still going)
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| Posted Feb 14, 2007, 20:51 PM |
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UCLAtechgod
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I think most scientists use the PC - thats what we use in my lab right now...and most of the building. I was just looking at Biocompare.com and Invitrogen has a great PC system for sale there....if Invitrogen uses it then it must be pretty good....
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| Posted Feb 16, 2007, 5:09 AM |
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