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 Native ChIP and sonication? [View Printable]
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I always read that for native ChIP (N-ChIP) you can use micrococcal nuclease to generate fragments but for formaldehyde crosslinked ChIP (X-ChIP) one should sonicate to shear because the micrococcal nuclease sites could be blocked. N-ChIP should be perfect for IP of histones which is what I'm interesting in doing right now, but I'm looking for a simplified protocol and I like the idea of shearing with a water bath sonicator such as the Bioruptor.

So, my question: is there a reason why one cannot sonicate native chromatin? Will the histones detach under these conditions if not fixed first?
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 Posted Jan 16, 2007, 17:36 PM
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You are probably right. The sonication would break up the bonds between chromatin and associated proteins. However, I am unsure whether histones would detach from chromatin by sonication. A good review in Biotechniques
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I would not recommend a sonicating water bath since the energy is not concentrated enough to give you necessary shearing in the minimum of time nor will the sample be cooled.
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Posted May 13, 2007, 17:25 PM
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Hello, have you finally founded a protocol for N-ChIP using the sonication for shearing the chromatin?
Thanks,
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Posted Sep 18, 2007, 12:43 PM
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Sadly, no progress on using sonication with N-ChIP. Although I haven't been actively pursuing it, I'm just trying to get X-ChIP to work reliably!
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Posted Sep 18, 2007, 19:55 PM
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You should use a high intensity water bath accessory (cup horn) with much higher power density due to the special form of the cup horn itsself.
Use a BRANSON SONIFIER using a cuphorn HIGH INTENSITY (only available with BRANSON units!! Must be a HIGH INTENSITY!!) ) plus an added cooling device (including right cooling fluid) have best performance.
Ask me for more details
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