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I came across a no. of ads which depict the utility of various organic compounds in connection with human linked compounds.A no. of shampoo ads believing to remove dandruff, detergent ads saying their formula removes dirt from inside,similar is the case with other food stuffs ...
detergents containing "active oxygen",shampoo containing vitamis...and other unbelievable thoughts from these sellers ..."they think the masses are fool ,if not ,still they can be made so by presenting their items in the name of science..."this is fruad in itself!
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 Posted Dec 09, 2005, 6:39 AM
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Can you reference a particular Ad or ingredient in a commcersial product with which you have a problem to strengthen your argument?
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Posted Dec 10, 2005, 18:18 PM
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frasermoss said:
Can you reference a particular Ad or ingredient in a commcersial product with which you have a problem to strengthen your argument?


Don't you have come across any such product depicting these nonsense things?
tell me what is the use of vitamins to the hair growth..how can we apply vitamins externally to "KERATINISED HAIR" and what sort of they can do ?
Similarly detergents with "active oxygen" can remove dirt How?...
love to ahve your glance again...!
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Posted Dec 12, 2005, 4:34 AM
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"Active Oxygen"

Many solid detergent products often contain sodium percarbonate or sodium perborate and the liquid products often contain hydrogen peroxide. They are often marketed as containing "active oxygen".

Sodium percarbonate (or sodium carbonate peroxyhydrate) is an addition compound of sodium carbonate and hydrogen peroxide. It is a white crystalline water-soluble chemical compound. When dissolved into water, its releases H2O2 and soda ash (sodium carbonate). It dissolves into water rapidly to release oxygen and provides powerful cleaning, bleaching, stain removal and deodorizing capabilities. Besides, sodium carbonate decomposed from sodium percarbonate is able to increase the pH value in washing water to knock down the activities of calcium ion and magnesium ion, thus intenerates water. Another benefit offered by sodium carbonate by raising the pH value is to reduce the negative charges of dirt and fibre resulting in the strengthening repellency between dirt and fibre, which leads to the improvement of bleaching and stain removing effects.

According to http://www.chem-world.com/sodium_percarbonate, compared with chlorine bleaching chemicals that leave contaminating residues in the environment, sodium percarbonate is an environmentally friendly chemical which decomposes into oxygen, water and natural soda ash when subjected to moisture. Sodium percarbonate is increasingly being the substitute for sodium perborate in detergent formulations due to its lower dissolving temperature in water, as well as the characteristic of no contamination on soil, as sodium perborate is made of borax which is found to have negative impact on the soil quality. Detergent or bleach compositions formulated with sodium percarbonate have a strong stain removal capability. It is very effective as a laundry presoak for heavily stained articles. It is color safe. It brightens colors and prevents fabric from becoming yellowed or darkened. Sodium percarbonate is effective as a disinfectant on both bacteria and viruses.

Sodium perborate (PBS), also called perboric acid or metaborate peroxyhydrate, is a white, odorless, water-soluble chemical compound with chemical formula NaBO3. It crystallizes as monohydrate or tetrahydrate. Sodium perborate is manufactured by reaction of sodium tetraborate, hydrogen peroxide, and sodium hydroxide. It is a skin irritant. Sodium perborate undergoes hydrolysis in contact with water, producing hydrogen peroxide and borate. It serves as a source of active oxygen in many detergents, laundry detergents, cleaning products, and laundry bleaches. It is also present in some tooth bleaching formulas. It has antiseptic properties and can act as a disinfectant. Sodium perborate releases oxygen rapidly at temperatures over 60 °C. To make it active at lower temperatures (40-60 °C), it has to be mixed with a suitable activator, typically tetraacetylethylenediamine (TAED).
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Posted Dec 13, 2005, 20:00 PM
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The vitamins and "plant extracts" in shampoo are more than likely useless I agree. I got the below paragraph from http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=shampoo

'Botanicals', vitamins, essential oils, sunscreens, plant extracts, and many other highly-touted ingredients in shampoo do nothing useful for your hair. Vitamins cannot be absorbed by the skin, much less by the hair (being dead tissue), and to be made useful in the body, they must be digested and combined with other substances. Vitamins are coenzymes, meaning that they must be used in association with enzymes, in complex biological processes. They do not have the magical properties shampoo ads would have you believe they do, and what's more, they are generally present in tiny, tiny quantities in cosmetics.

Plant extracts are worse than useless in shampoos. None of them have been shown to have a positive effect on the hair; they are chosen, for the most part, for their fascinating, exotic-sounding names. Until there is real evidence - as in, published, peer-reviewed scientific research, don't be swayed by the Madagascar Honey-Orchid or the Tierra del Fuego Spiny Fire Orange, no matter how fascinating they may sound. Even more damning: read the ingredients list on your shampoo bottle - plant extracts are almost always towards the end of the list, meaning they are present in only the tiniest quantities. On the other hand, some shampoo bottles list them first, referring to "Aqueous extracts of . . . ". Don't be fooled. This means that, in producing the product, they add a tiny amount of plant material to the water prior to adding other ingredients.

Essential oils are another much-hyped ingredient in hair products. I won't take a stand on the usefulness of aromatherapy - but I will state my opinion that whatever validity it has as a medicinal technique, it seems unlikely that a shampoo is a good way to obtain it. Essential oils are an extremely common source of allergies and skin sensitivity. Their only real function in the shampoo is as fragrance.

The worst feature of these plant derivatives is that their presence necessitates a greater amount of preservatives to prevent the product from rotting. Plant extracts are obviously prime food for bacteria and fungi - and so the seemingly 'natural' cosmetics may contain more of the more suspect chemicals to make up for the useless plant material they contain.
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Posted Dec 13, 2005, 23:23 PM
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thank you for ur glance once again with the "convinced answer"in case of active oxygen...and for vitamins too you are right at ur place ...
since this section is of PHARMACOLOGY ...so i want to a problem of my friend here ,hope u will love to find the solution..........
my friend of age 24years has been suffering from the disease " reumatic fever "since when he was 6 or 7 years of age ..then he went under treatment for the same ...now he is using an injection product name "PENIDURE LA" having chemical composition Benzathine pencillin ....

ABOUT THE DRUG::
PENCILLIN G OCCURS AS A WHITE CRYSTALLINE PPOWDER WHICH IS SLIGHTLY SOLUBLE IN THE WATER .THE RECONSTITUTED AQUEOS SUSPENSION IS OPAQUE AND VISCOUS...

WARNING:
the vail stopper contains dry rubber (natural) that may cause hyper sensitivity reactions when handled by or when the product is injected in the persons with known possible latex sensitivity...
the drug is reported to initiate cancer ,mutatgenesis, impairment of fertility...

NOW MY QUESTIONS TO U SIR...
1. SHOULD MY FRIEND GO CONTINUE USING THE DRUG ?
2. WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO DECREASE THE LEVEL OF THIS DEASES?
3.WHAT ARE ITS SIDE EFFECTS?
4.PROVIDE ME WITH THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THIS DEASES IN DETAIL
THANK YOU!
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Posted Dec 17, 2005, 4:52 AM
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Rheumatic fever begins with a strep throat from streptococcal infection. If left untreated it can develop into Rheumatic heart disease is a condition in which the heart valves are damaged by rheumatic fever.
I refer you to the following web sites to answer your questions.

Rheumatic fever - links

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/7/1680_53609.htm

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic509.htm

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/rheumatic-fever/DS00250

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section19/chapter270/270a.jsp

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/7/1680_53610.htm

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/7/1680_53611.htm

Your friend appears to be on conventional treatment for this infection, and should adhere to the prescription his doctor is giving him and only change if he gets a contrary second opinion from a qualified physician (if possible a specialist in the field). If he has been taking the same antibiotic for a long time and it is not improving condition, the infection may have developed resistance to the drug and he should switch to a different antibiotic.

What you should be concerned about is controlling the disease so as not to develop a chronic cardiac condition.

http://www.webmd.com/hw/heart_disease/ug1268.asp

http://www.webmd.com/hw/heart_disease/ug1420.asp

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4709

I STRESS I AM NOT AN MD, AND AM MERELY REFERING YOU TO LITERATURE ON THE SUBJECT ELSEWHERE ON THE WEB. ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE STARTING A NEW MEDICATION OR CHANGING MEDICATIONS.
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Posted Dec 21, 2005, 15:26 PM
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thank u for your words related to the "rhematic arthiritis"...i was greatly impressed with your style of presetation ...
i once again love to see new things from u..
have a great year 2006....urs "waseem'
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